[ Matt's lingering look of awkwardness only truly fades at that very last statement. Then it's consideration that dims his expression, sending him quiet for a moment. He's dimly aware that they should probably be proceeding down if they're really not going to have a break. But he can't help pursuing the thread of the conversation. It feels important. ]

I see, [ he says. What is it with showing up naked to these places? Something about rebirth, something about transformation. When you get right down to it, what's the difference between a seed pod and a chrysalis? ] That's good. I'm glad I did that--he did that.

[ Matt smiles faintly, wistfully almost. He shakes his head. ]

I don't think anyone deserves to feel alone, especially someplace like--what that place sounded like. [ And of course, Liem has expressed his doubts that this place is much better. ] Things are already so hard.